• Deleted User

    Deleted User
    July 8, 2022 at 12:38 pm

    I was diagnosed with PD 7 months after the suicide of my life partner.  More than one neurologist I have spoken to agrees with me in that any type of severe trauma (emotional or physical) can trigger the disease. One friend of mine diagnosed with PD before me, had an extremelt difficult first pregnancy. Another friend diagnosed before me was attacked by a man who broke  into her aprtment and beat her up.

    • Ally

      Moderator
      July 12, 2022 at 9:27 am

      Hi Jean, thank you for sharing these points. We as a society are learning more and more each year about the very real and impactful connection between physical and mental health. Thank you for illuminating another one of these connections as relates to PD. <3

    • Deborah (Debbie) DeView

      Member
      July 14, 2022 at 8:59 am

      I have not heard of this thought but I do know for positive that two years after my diagnosis my husband died. Then having to get house ready for sell and then moving my disease took an upward turn and by 5 yrs after diagnosis I had a DBS surgery. And 2yrs later I moved to a long term care facility.

       

      • Ally

        Moderator
        July 19, 2022 at 9:54 pm

        Debbie, thank you for sharing your experience. All of that sounds incredibly difficult. How are you doing now?

    • nancy

      Member
      July 15, 2022 at 9:36 am

      I was diagnosed with PD one month after my mother passed away.  If the trauma of losing my mother wasn’t bad enough, I had to endure the wrath of my sisters who refused to help take care of mom but they sure had their hand out when it was time to collect their share of the estate.

      • Ally

        Moderator
        July 19, 2022 at 9:55 pm

        Nancy, I’m so sorry that you had this experience. I hope that your mother’s estate has been settled and you have had some reprieve. How are you doing now?

  • Patricia Conner

    Member
    July 12, 2022 at 4:21 pm

    2015 i fell on my back. Major operation with cervical one Dr said my adrenal glands -,salt, was injured. 6 years later i got Parkinson symptoms and tremors and then fainted. I had addison and almost died. My tremurs stopped . K walked better. I learned that dopamine used these glands to get gut dopomine to the brain. I have gait problems only. I am European and international lawyer. I fitmly
    believe that the non motor dymptond side effects that we have to deal with. But dopamine can not go to the brain by blood. It is why we have l_dops. But we know it used the adrenal glands to get dopamine to the head. I, a sceptic french think because of the accudent, then parkinsoni and then Addison have a flow connection as the normal dopamine
    Was slowed down by the Addison gland. I take one tablet per day for Addison. I have no dark skin. But the Parkinson advance
    symptoms are faster as the gland can only work max 10 years on fabricated salt. I believe that there is an active relationship between the adrenal gland injury and Pd. This comes from a fact only believer. But it sounds logicsl and i feel it.

    • Ally

      Moderator
      July 19, 2022 at 9:56 pm

      Patricia, thank you for sharing your experience. You shared an interesting comment about adrenal injury. What does your doctor think?

  • Ravindra Kango

    Member
    July 14, 2022 at 2:36 pm

    I worked on accounting job for 20 years in a chemical  company in India that  was manufacturing dyes and related highly poisonous chemicals. Although my job did not include direct handling those chemicals, but there was 9 x 5 = 45 hours exposure to the air pollution prevailing in the nearby area. I believe this exposure was the root cause which manifested as PD 12 years after leaving that job. Exposure to toxic chemicals through air, water, food and especially plastic is globally considered to be a potential cause for PD.

    Then I moved several miles away in IT industry for 15 years where I used to work in a very clean, airconditioned premises but the job demanded high amount of work pressure affecting mental health. I believe changing to a stressful job and previous history of chemical exposure accelerated onset of what is known as young Parkinsinsm when I was 54.

    • Ally

      Moderator
      July 19, 2022 at 9:57 pm

      Ravindra, thank you for sharing. I’m noticing a trend with these replies, from you and others on this discussion topic… stress may be a huge contributing factor. The literally toxic environment you worked in surely can’t have helped matters either.

    • Patricia Conner

      Member
      July 22, 2022 at 8:19 am

      As my case follows a path of logic, they believed it. I am not lacking dopamine but i am lacking the transmission from gut to brain via Addison ?? gland. In France, where i am from, they are watching accidents one of possible cause/,effect. Slow working results of dopamine is the general reason for Parkinson and accidents vary the. Effects and speed for not only Parkinson but other problems. So they are very interested.

      • Ally

        Moderator
        July 23, 2022 at 10:56 am

        Thank you for responding, Patricia. Are you interested in being part of any research into this idea?

  • Ken Aidekman

    Member
    July 15, 2022 at 2:15 am

    I believe my Parkinson’s was a combination of genetic and environmental factors. My father and grandfather had it. So it likely has a genetic component. No one else on my father’s side had it though one of my Dad’s brothers and his sister had Alzheimer’s.

    The environmental part is a big question mark. My father grew up on his father’s dairy farm with well water and I’ve lived in two houses over the last 25 years with well water. I wouldn’t be surprised if the air pollution in New Jersey had a contributing effect. Thankfully, that’s been reduced.

    As a kid I loved building model cars which included spray painting them in the basement with no windows open. I was exposed to DDT spraying on occasion. I’ve also enjoyed time outdoors in the summer but am sensitive to topical chemicals. I sprayed myself regularly to keep from getting bitten by mosquitoes and horse flies.

    Sometimes I think that our environment is so filled with artificial toxic compounds that we can’t help but be exposed to something that triggers PD eventually. If only I hadn’t breathed or eaten over the last 60 years! We live in a dangerous world. I consider myself lucky to have made it this far.

    • Ally

      Moderator
      July 19, 2022 at 9:58 pm

      Hi Ken, thank you for sharing your experience. I think you make a very good point about the overall environment of our modern world. I wonder what people 50-100 years from now will think of how we lived!

      • Jon Busch

        Member
        October 30, 2022 at 2:43 pm

        As a child my father used o have me go into the extensive vegetable garden and dust the cabbages with DDT. I distinctly remember the sweet smell of it. Then we’d eat the cabbages both fresh and in homemade sauerkraut. This went on for several years before DDT was outlawed. But at the same time both my father and grandfather came down with PD and I was diagnosed in 2009. My two younger brothers have so far been PD free, of course they are 6 and 8 years younger than me and likely not exposed as much as me. Interestingly I enrolled in the PDgeneration study and it was determined that I had none of the faulty genes they tested for. It’s still a puzzle. I have progressed slowly until about 5 months ago when I started developing uncontrollable tremor. My neurologist put me on Nourianz. With my insurance the pay was a manageable $100 a month. Unfortunately they said they made a mistake and the copay would be $523. As it seemed to be ineffective in dealing with the tremor I stopped taking it. I may try starting a new thread as I am active at the gym and have been since 2003 but I’m growing weaker it seems by the month. Darn.

    • Gauri

      Member
      July 25, 2022 at 1:59 am

      Let me share with you my experience after both the delivery. I gave birth to the first child when I was 26 and second child when I was 32. After both delivery I experienced hyperlactation. After the first delivery due to lack of access to Medical Services and appropriate drugs to treat hyperlatation and since the situation was going out of control and I was profusely lactating I had to gradually stop feeding the baby. Hyperlactation was extremely painful and caused me tremendous inconvenience although I pumped Bottles And bottles of milk and supplied. Exactly the same story repeated after the second delivery. But I got some medicine to treat the hyperlactation. I had suffered from high fever and was on antibiotics for 10 days.
      Hyperlactation is a outcome of lack of secretion of chemicals from the brain and this proves the root cause of cells creating dopamine to die. I went on a diet and reduced substantial fact prior to being diagnose with parkinson.
      While I had reduce substantial weight and fat one fine day I found my neck stiff my hands fingers frozen and my walking was affected.
      For very long time I ignored these symptoms. One day when I went to see a Neurologist he wrote on a piece of paper after examining for 10 min; to have been diagnosed with Parkinson. I was 41 years old then.

  • Diana

    Member
    July 15, 2022 at 8:30 am

    I’ve read that allergies do not cause Parkinsons..but we moved out west where I have strong allergies to sage; juniper; western wheat. After living in fields of this stuff , chronically dealing with inflammation of severe allergies, 8 yrs later signs of Parkinsons.
    Getting allergy shots. My symptoms are much better when the inflammatory response of allergies are decreased

    • Ally

      Moderator
      July 19, 2022 at 9:59 pm

      Diana, I hadn’t heard about the potential connection between PD and allergies. Thank you for sharing. Have you talked to your doctor about this?

      • Alan M

        Member
        October 22, 2022 at 9:37 am

        T’is true Ally.  Some have noticed this allergic connection as early as 2018.  See https://parkinsonsnewstoday.com/news/migraines-ocd-seasonal-allergies-may-be-risk-factors-for-parkinsons-large-study-suggests/

        It also occurred to  me that maybe, in a similar way, PD is somehow linked to inflammatory response as a result of exposure to harmful pathological chemicals or viral pathogens.  For example, people exposed to bacterium that leads to Lyme’s disease their immune system is altered, causing it to attack healthy CNS cells.  These bacteria apparently alter dendritic cells, which… signal an immune response against infection that cause receptor sites on the surface of dendritic cells, known as HLA-DRs, to mature and become active. Normally, these HLA-DRs cells would present antigens to killer T-cells, the immune system agents that remove invaders from the body.

        Researchers believe that when the HLA-DRs interact with the autoimmune system, they are structurally changed and keep the dendritic cells from “marking” the invasive proteins as foreign, which could lead to the dendritic cells attracting T-cells; but instead of attacking the foreign invader, attacks the healthy cells.  If a person has a genetic predisposition to autoimmune diseases (such as rheumatoid arthritis or PD) infection by certain diseases such as Lyme’s disease may trigger their development.   See https://www.healtheuropa.com/new-study-shows-lyme-disease-alters-immune-system/104461/

  • Dave Berry

    Member
    July 22, 2022 at 7:21 am

    I don’t have any of the known genetic links to PD.  When I was 2 my mother treated the yard with 2-4-D to kill dandelions.  My brother and I were in the yard and I turned blue and was taken to the ER.  I have always been highly sensitive and grew up on a farm with lots of sprays and chemicals in the air (but not paraquat).

    • Ally

      Moderator
      August 23, 2022 at 3:22 pm

      Wow, that’s a really intense experience, Dave. Have you ever asked a doctor about it in relation to your PD diagnosis? Has your brother or any other family member shown any side effects or symptoms as a result of being in that environment/around those substances?

  • Harold (Butch) Hackney

    Member
    October 16, 2022 at 4:35 pm

    I was in the navy during the Vietnam era stationed abroad a aircraft carrier. I was exposed jet fuel fumes & jet exhaust fumes all the time, plus paint & solvent fumes from the storage area for them next to the shop that I worked in.

    No one  in my family has ever had parkinson disease.

  • Harold (Butch) Hackney

    Member
    October 16, 2022 at 4:37 pm

    I was in the navy during the Vietnam era stationed abroad a aircraft carrier. I was exposed to jet fuel fumes & jet exhaust fumes all the time, plus paint & solvent fumes from the storage area for them next to the shop that I worked in.

    No one  in my family has ever had parkinson disease.

  • Mr. Morris Colin

    Member
    October 18, 2022 at 2:28 pm

    An interesting question

    I had a severe head injury in 2005 and I question whether it was the beginning of the diagnosis. I had an inter cranial bleed and I was comatose for about two months

    on top of that the stress of the past two years were I’m convinced was a cause of the diagnosis

    i realised that I was suffering during 2020 and was diagnosed in 2022 lots of my symptoms were present but I didn’t know what the reason was.

  • Pam Randles

    Member
    October 18, 2022 at 2:50 pm

    I think I have lived on a road that was sprayed with an herbicide that contains agent Orange. it was sprayed in the 1950s and I moved onto the road in 2002. But I have lived here for 20 years. I think it has gotten into my water.

  • Wobblygirl

    Member
    October 18, 2022 at 5:08 pm

    We worked as volunteer teachers in Vietnam 2000-2002 in an area which had been heavily contaminated with Agent Orange. I was diagnosed in 2018, but looking back I realise I had symptoms for some time. No idea if the pesticide was the cause, but there is no PD in my family. Then again, though, why is my husband OK? Is there a genetic predisposition which is exacerbated by contact with pesticides? Who knows!

  • Bill

    Member
    October 18, 2022 at 5:37 pm

    Not real sure about direct cause, but unfortunately, did experiment in a variety of drugs in college. Been completely off for decades, had a good career, and now retired. My onset was at age 64.  I’ve heard that this could trigger PD years later.   Would be interested if others would share their story, or others would rule out the link between the two.

  • C Morts

    Member
    October 19, 2022 at 8:40 am

    In 2014 I was hit by a large truck while in a crosswalk. Sustained a severe concussion. Over the next 4 years my PD symptoms emerged but it was only diagnosed three years ago. My neurologist believe that it is possible that the accident triggered my PD. But we will never know for sure. I have no family history of PD.

  • Alan M

    Member
    October 20, 2022 at 8:47 pm

    Like Ken intimated earlier, I believe PD is triggered by both genetic and epigenetic causal factors.

    GENETIC CONTRIBUTORS

    On my maternal side, two of my mother’s sisters succumbed to PD.  One is still with us.  Nothing on my father’s side, except a prevalence of alcoholism and Alzheimer’s.

    I can’t help but wonder if dementia-like diseases aren’t often comorbid with PD and Parkinsonism(s).

    EPIGENETIC CONTRIBUTORS

    As to the environmental triggers, many different chemicals, including those that come from exposure to neuro-inflammatory agent(s) can be related to my story.  Exposure to glyphosate-based herbicides (GBHs) working as a Forester in the bush didn’t help my situation any –  although it may not be as horrendous as Agent Orange exposure.  Other more rare chemicals (chemicals for treating kangaroo skins for commercial purposes) may have contributed to my PD as well.

    I also suffered 2nd and 3rd degree burns over 65-70% of  my body at age 5 years (hospitalized for over a year in a burn unit) which may imply trauma might also be at the root of my diagnosis.

    I could go on-and-on but I won’t bore you with any more “suspicions” I might hold to.

     

  • Donna K

    Member
    October 21, 2022 at 12:07 am

    I have thyroid cancer since 2002, and the treatment consists of surgery followed by radioactive iodine treatment. Later, the eye surgeon told me that he saw a lot of people who had thyroid treatments that had eye ducts that closed up. He said that the iodine closed up the small places in our bodies. I think that my liver disease, primary biliary cholangitis (the tiny ducts in the liver close up and bile can’t get out) was also closed up by the iodine treatments. I think PD might be another side effect from iodine treatments. None of the Drs are interested in this theory of mine.

    • Mary Beth Skylis

      Moderator
      October 22, 2022 at 11:25 am

      Interesting theory, Donna. It sounds like you’ve had your fair share of challenges. How are you doing today? Is your quality of life where you’d like it to be?

      • Donna K

        Member
        October 26, 2022 at 12:41 am

        My life is ok right now. I had high expectations for retired life, and now know that I won’t be doing all the hiking and travel. I have to rest way more than I thought. 1 day if activities means 1 day of rest. Hoping to increase stamina by doing more each day.

  • ibrahim h caglayan

    Member
    November 2, 2022 at 2:22 am

    I believe my PD was set off by the terrible trauma I experienced when a very serious (six digit) amount of money was embezzled by one of my employees.[Court case is still ongoing after 7 years]. This incident not only invited PD but made my diabetes Type 1, worse.

  • Malcolm Swift

    Member
    November 3, 2022 at 4:54 pm

    Could someone tell me what is the point of this thread and the purpose of the question? If it is about “sharing’ it does not interest me and I do not court sympathy. If there is a genuine research purpose I can make a significant contribution but I am not doing it otherwise

  • Crissy

    Member
    November 3, 2022 at 5:50 pm

    Hi Malcolm — please disregard my post.

  • McDonald E Rominger

    Member
    November 8, 2022 at 2:22 pm

    I was diagnosed with PD at age 62 but had symptoms since age 56. I recognized these symptoms because my maternal grandmother (1910-1977) was diagnosed with PD at age 57 and died at age 77 and my father (1928-2015) was diagnosed with PD at age 79 and died at age 87.

    Seems a pretty strong likelihood that there is a genetic connection in my case!

  • Dick Boynton

    Member
    November 10, 2022 at 11:06 pm

    I used Roundup for many years to kill my poison ivy and bamboo. Five years ago I got Lymphoma. Luckily I survived this. Then last year I was diagnosed with Parkinson’s.

  • Ron carlson

    Member
    November 11, 2022 at 12:56 pm

    My experienced a devastating attack of shingles.  Within one year she was diagnosed with PD.  I have found she gains considerable relief from hand tremors by using the Cala Trio bio modulation device.  Excellent relief from tremors

  • Claudia

    Member
    February 14, 2023 at 2:44 pm

    I started having arm tremors and was diagnosed by a neurologist. I went for a second opinion and had an MRI which showed a right basal ganglia infarction. Was told that can lead to Parkinson. I am not taking any meds because it seems that nobody really knows what is going on. I don’t really know where to go from here. Maybe someone else had the same experience. Would love to know

    • Ally

      Moderator
      February 14, 2023 at 7:47 pm

      Hi Claudia, how recently did you receive this diagnosis? I’m sorry to hear you’re in medical limbo waiting for next steps. I don’t have personal experience with a basal ganglia infarction but hopefully if someone else in this community does, they can share their experience with you.

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